Dying for someone`s sins?

I thought you made a good point in the book Tom. I however wear a crucifix every day around my neck. I am not christian, in fact I am not any religion. Many people would ask me why I would wear such a symbol then.

I wear the symbol because I admire the sacrifice Jesus made, dying for the sins of others. Even though I am not sure about whether or not his sacrifice made a difference, I still admire the sacrifice he made. He died for something he believed in, and that is commendable.

Michael

Do you remember WHO told you that Jesus died for "sins of others"? Have you checked their MOTIVES? Have you checked what ELSE they do and say? Aren't they the same people who molest children and get away with it?

Imagine a school in which those who bimbo around get promoted and those who advance their consciousness get ridiculed, punished, tortured and killed. Would you like to go to a school like this? Would you send your children there? Do you think the Universe was created to make and reward lots of idiots?

By blindly believing in "dying for someone else's sins" interpretation you actually insult GI by implying that it is an idiot who has no idea what is going on in the Universe...

Have you forgotten that Jesus CAME BACK TO LIFE and hence demonstrated the immortality of consciousness? You have eyes, but can you see?

Tom

Michael, it's like saying , Jesus 'came up' to God and said, you are going to punish them, why don't you punish me instead! and God says, well yeah, I 'need' to punish someone anyway! so there you go, Crucify!!

People! stop being idiots and start thinking for yourselves!

Sorry Tom but I am just running out of patience with some of these people who claim they have 'read' your book. [Shah]

Tom, I had never thought of this saying the way you had put it, that is a superb piece of reasoning about the motives of the GI. I always thought that this quote meant he died because human beings were so sinful ('going against the purpose of the universe')and that is why they killed him. Interestingly, this quote is used to offer "salvation" to flocks of followers, under the banner that you can do anything you want once you are saved. They argue that because Jesus died for our sins, all people need to do is to accept this sacrifice, 'believe it', and from that point on, all is forgiven and all sin is washed away and you theen have a place in heaven. Apparently, according to the logic of the church, he not only died for the sins of those at that time, but apparently for all of humanities sins that will occur in the future as well(we all receive the bonus from his death for some reason). Clearly, his death and 'sacrifice' extend beyond the point of death to now, yet how is this statement possible when he clearly reincarnated 'was resurrected' a short period of time after he was crucified???

pauld

This is not the only problem with the church doctrine. Jesus never EVER talked about anyone going to "heaven" to begin with. So-called "paradise" is a 100% church fabricated concept, developed to fool people and collect their property.

There is a man in Sweden, who offers an award to anyone who can prove that Jesus promised anyone to go to paradise. He distributed leaflets at church services. As a result - the Pope admitted that "there may not be any paradise"...

Amazingly, people continue to "believe" in the church deceit. There must be no limit to how stupid one can become...

Tom

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